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Time, Chaos and Change

Written by: Xadzia Rihwin
Date: Tuesday, January 22nd, 2002
Addressed to: Everyone


I would like to continue the debate that Lord Twilight asked for,
but before I continue I must remind those that read this that it
designed as only conjecture. Some beings may find this next segment
strange or even offensive, both of which I do not wish. I just wish
to broaden minds and enlighten. I also feel I must restate the
initial question posed.

"the Gods grow? Do the Gods change? Do the Gods mature? Or are We
stagnant and immutable beings doomed to forever be the same? Were We
created perfect? Were We created omniscient? Omnipresent? Omnipotent?"

I will be making rather large leaps and bounds in this paper, and
I hope that any holes in my argument may be helped by other kind souls
or perhaps refuted so that a better idea may be found. I first feel
that I must ask Lady Eris nicely for comments, or information about
herself, and that which she represents, Chaos. Chaos is a very vauge
idea with so many exact parts. I know many that study it, and I have
not studied all of the tomes, or ways that I could, but I think that
I posess a rudimentary grasp on it.

I am a mortal, I am human, and I believe that time effects me more
drastically than some of the divine. I live, and then I will die.
It is a very simple concept, but that idea puts stress, and even a
unique meaning to each mortals life. I feel time also has a very
unique hold on the immortal. Think of Chaos, when one does rather
obsurd ideas can pop into the mind, like a pink, furry, humgii
hopping about and giving chocolate eggs to people. That is definatly
quite the chaotic idea, though try it through this perspective. If
there was a picture, or a moment in time that was still. Would that
still be chaotic? One has no frame of referance to see the past or
the future in that image. That image alone is not chaotic without
before and after. Thus it could be said that a small degree of time
needed to define Chaos.

Let us look at this time and Chaos idea. If time is needed for
there to be Chaos, then one would think that there is a border
between the sphere of power Lady Eris controls, and this entity Time.
I feel that many of the Gods have such borders in their powers, but
where does the border lie between magic and darkness when one casts
a spell creating night? I just wonder that on occasion, but then
again I am getting off subject.

Now Lord Twilight spoke of Mortality as being a reflection of that
which is Immortality. I see that as Him admiting that not only does
he change, direct his own followers through life, but he also lets
them help guide Him slowly, and change Him through time with the
change that they take on. Each God I believe changes differantly
depending on Sphere of Power, and well, personality. I feel that
Sartan, whom proudly has influance over His followers to the grave,
changes more slowly, and perhaps stays more to the form that He
was created into. I feel this change is simmilar to the change
that Ayar and Proteus had when they merged, being that differing
ideas and perspectives gained by Proteus, helped augment Ayar into
what we now call the Logos. That change however being on a far, far
greater scale and of greater signifigance.

Now I come to my point, which is how Chaos folds into it all. I feel
that during the creation in which it was thought that perhaps a plane
which was the opposite of the Creation, The Chaos Plane, or perhaps
it is the opposite of Existance it self. (Now that is a totally
differant debate). I know that the results of the Unamed Horror's
brief visit to Creation ultimatly brought the events that ended
Creation, and caused Ayar and Proteus to form into the Logos, which
I have already shown how that proved growth in the Gods. Now could
not Humanity, and the Chaos spread all over the world from the time
which Entropy and Discord were defeated have impacted the Elder Gods?

If one quickly remebers Twilights own quote I spoke of above, and
also remembers how I was alluding that I felt that it showed a
definate connection between the growth of the Gods and the mortals.
Could it not be Chaos which brought this change, wheither directly,
or through all of the residents on Achaea? Chaos means many things
to many people, from utter inaneity, to beautiful randomness, to
well what I like to think of it as. Hope. I feel Chaos is the hope
of the future, time going still, and the ideas that anything can
happen, anywhere. Hope is a beautiful thing to bring to the realms.

Now I would like to conlude by saying that again some of these ideas
and muses are no compleate, after reviewing part of this paper I
noticed that I sort of droped the Chaos and time theory, I also
seemed to have only touched the boards, and spheres of Divine Power
ideas that I was thinking of. Lastly I know that I also need to
flesh out the thoughts of Chaos being perhaps the opposite of
Existance, or Creation. I felt that I need to brush up on Erisian
Chaos theory to get a proper perspective on that one. I wish
to open up the floor on this post, and any of the topics I only
briefly touched for discussion by any and all philosophical minds.
I as always will welcome comments and suggestions, and even help
locating the perfect tomes for my own research.

Philosopher and Historian at large
Xadzia Rihwin

Penned by my hand on the 5th of Daedalan, in the year 297 AF.


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Public News Post #9349

Time, Chaos and Change

Written by: Xadzia Rihwin
Date: Tuesday, January 22nd, 2002
Addressed to: Everyone


I would like to continue the debate that Lord Twilight asked for,
but before I continue I must remind those that read this that it
designed as only conjecture. Some beings may find this next segment
strange or even offensive, both of which I do not wish. I just wish
to broaden minds and enlighten. I also feel I must restate the
initial question posed.

"the Gods grow? Do the Gods change? Do the Gods mature? Or are We
stagnant and immutable beings doomed to forever be the same? Were We
created perfect? Were We created omniscient? Omnipresent? Omnipotent?"

I will be making rather large leaps and bounds in this paper, and
I hope that any holes in my argument may be helped by other kind souls
or perhaps refuted so that a better idea may be found. I first feel
that I must ask Lady Eris nicely for comments, or information about
herself, and that which she represents, Chaos. Chaos is a very vauge
idea with so many exact parts. I know many that study it, and I have
not studied all of the tomes, or ways that I could, but I think that
I posess a rudimentary grasp on it.

I am a mortal, I am human, and I believe that time effects me more
drastically than some of the divine. I live, and then I will die.
It is a very simple concept, but that idea puts stress, and even a
unique meaning to each mortals life. I feel time also has a very
unique hold on the immortal. Think of Chaos, when one does rather
obsurd ideas can pop into the mind, like a pink, furry, humgii
hopping about and giving chocolate eggs to people. That is definatly
quite the chaotic idea, though try it through this perspective. If
there was a picture, or a moment in time that was still. Would that
still be chaotic? One has no frame of referance to see the past or
the future in that image. That image alone is not chaotic without
before and after. Thus it could be said that a small degree of time
needed to define Chaos.

Let us look at this time and Chaos idea. If time is needed for
there to be Chaos, then one would think that there is a border
between the sphere of power Lady Eris controls, and this entity Time.
I feel that many of the Gods have such borders in their powers, but
where does the border lie between magic and darkness when one casts
a spell creating night? I just wonder that on occasion, but then
again I am getting off subject.

Now Lord Twilight spoke of Mortality as being a reflection of that
which is Immortality. I see that as Him admiting that not only does
he change, direct his own followers through life, but he also lets
them help guide Him slowly, and change Him through time with the
change that they take on. Each God I believe changes differantly
depending on Sphere of Power, and well, personality. I feel that
Sartan, whom proudly has influance over His followers to the grave,
changes more slowly, and perhaps stays more to the form that He
was created into. I feel this change is simmilar to the change
that Ayar and Proteus had when they merged, being that differing
ideas and perspectives gained by Proteus, helped augment Ayar into
what we now call the Logos. That change however being on a far, far
greater scale and of greater signifigance.

Now I come to my point, which is how Chaos folds into it all. I feel
that during the creation in which it was thought that perhaps a plane
which was the opposite of the Creation, The Chaos Plane, or perhaps
it is the opposite of Existance it self. (Now that is a totally
differant debate). I know that the results of the Unamed Horror's
brief visit to Creation ultimatly brought the events that ended
Creation, and caused Ayar and Proteus to form into the Logos, which
I have already shown how that proved growth in the Gods. Now could
not Humanity, and the Chaos spread all over the world from the time
which Entropy and Discord were defeated have impacted the Elder Gods?

If one quickly remebers Twilights own quote I spoke of above, and
also remembers how I was alluding that I felt that it showed a
definate connection between the growth of the Gods and the mortals.
Could it not be Chaos which brought this change, wheither directly,
or through all of the residents on Achaea? Chaos means many things
to many people, from utter inaneity, to beautiful randomness, to
well what I like to think of it as. Hope. I feel Chaos is the hope
of the future, time going still, and the ideas that anything can
happen, anywhere. Hope is a beautiful thing to bring to the realms.

Now I would like to conlude by saying that again some of these ideas
and muses are no compleate, after reviewing part of this paper I
noticed that I sort of droped the Chaos and time theory, I also
seemed to have only touched the boards, and spheres of Divine Power
ideas that I was thinking of. Lastly I know that I also need to
flesh out the thoughts of Chaos being perhaps the opposite of
Existance, or Creation. I felt that I need to brush up on Erisian
Chaos theory to get a proper perspective on that one. I wish
to open up the floor on this post, and any of the topics I only
briefly touched for discussion by any and all philosophical minds.
I as always will welcome comments and suggestions, and even help
locating the perfect tomes for my own research.

Philosopher and Historian at large
Xadzia Rihwin

Penned by my hand on the 5th of Daedalan, in the year 297 AF.


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