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Written by: Occultist Secretary Amans Pomi Saruman of the Axioms and the Theorems
Date: Friday, March 31st, 2000
Addressed to: Everyone
"The church is never wrong, as her ideals cannot be."
Prove this. I doubt you can. You use it as a fundamental. It's not a valid statement to use since fandamentals are unprovable and to make an arguement, one must use fundamentals your opponent agrees upon. To do otherwise is to use a sacred book to argue the existence of a god to an atheist. You would take the book to be true even though it probably could not be proven but the atheist does not. Supposed you debate with one of another beliefe and ihs god wrote a book that contradicts your holy book regarding morals, etc. How do you prove one is more corretc than the other? You can't.
But assume this is the case: the Church is never wrong. It's members certainly can be as Isuldur showed us when he claimed they do not summon demons. If they do not summon them to this world then how do the demons fight along side of their summoners? Are victoms of such attacks imagining the claws tearing at their flesh? I think not. Therefore, the Church does in fact bring the most evil of creatures into the mortal realm (though for a very brief time) to fight by their side. Thereore, the Church has evil as an ally.
Urlotus also brought up a good point. The Church has the power to beguile Gaia's animals into killing themselves for shrines. They argue the animals do so on their own free will. By that logic, if a monk mind commands me to attack my guild master then I am at fault, not the monk. Obviosly this is not accurate. Thus the Church is responsible for destroying Gaia's animals. If doing so is a good thing then those of the druid class sworm to protect these creatures are not doing a good thing. I think we all agree that this is not the case for the druids, thus the Church is not doing a benevelant task when they build their power through the death and destruction of sacred life. Death and destruction of sacred life: that is what the Church despise practicers of necromancers for. I think we've now encountered a hypocracy.
Penned by my hand on the 12th of Phaestian, in the year 244 AF.
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Written by: Occultist Secretary Amans Pomi Saruman of the Axioms and the Theorems
Date: Friday, March 31st, 2000
Addressed to: Everyone
"The church is never wrong, as her ideals cannot be."
Prove this. I doubt you can. You use it as a fundamental. It's not a valid statement to use since fandamentals are unprovable and to make an arguement, one must use fundamentals your opponent agrees upon. To do otherwise is to use a sacred book to argue the existence of a god to an atheist. You would take the book to be true even though it probably could not be proven but the atheist does not. Supposed you debate with one of another beliefe and ihs god wrote a book that contradicts your holy book regarding morals, etc. How do you prove one is more corretc than the other? You can't.
But assume this is the case: the Church is never wrong. It's members certainly can be as Isuldur showed us when he claimed they do not summon demons. If they do not summon them to this world then how do the demons fight along side of their summoners? Are victoms of such attacks imagining the claws tearing at their flesh? I think not. Therefore, the Church does in fact bring the most evil of creatures into the mortal realm (though for a very brief time) to fight by their side. Thereore, the Church has evil as an ally.
Urlotus also brought up a good point. The Church has the power to beguile Gaia's animals into killing themselves for shrines. They argue the animals do so on their own free will. By that logic, if a monk mind commands me to attack my guild master then I am at fault, not the monk. Obviosly this is not accurate. Thus the Church is responsible for destroying Gaia's animals. If doing so is a good thing then those of the druid class sworm to protect these creatures are not doing a good thing. I think we all agree that this is not the case for the druids, thus the Church is not doing a benevelant task when they build their power through the death and destruction of sacred life. Death and destruction of sacred life: that is what the Church despise practicers of necromancers for. I think we've now encountered a hypocracy.
Penned by my hand on the 12th of Phaestian, in the year 244 AF.