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Public News Post #10772

RE: Free Will, Celestial Manifestations, and What Not

Written by: Disciple Diego, Initiate of the First Order
Date: Friday, March 14th, 2003
Addressed to: Everyone


I beg pardon, citizens of Sapience, if I sound
a bit hesitant. I am young and this is my first
post to the entire realm, and it is a bit over-
whelming. I write in response to News #10765
penned by Wilderness Apprentice Teravell Mori in
regards to the subject of Free Will and whether
the Divine have it, and we are somehow more
free.

I am still in the process of my studies
and I do not presume to speak for any in my
guild, be they peers or elder Kharon. What I
write this fine day of Sarapin is my views on the
posting and my interpretation on one of the
Kharon's most important spiritual texts, "The
Seven Energies".

Do the Divine have free will? Do we mortals?

"The Seven Energies" is a text that discusses
the Energies that shape our lives, form our
actions, give us the breath of life, and the
taste of death. Without going into too much
detail, each Energy has its own part in our
world, and it affects our actions (or are our
actions). Of relevance is the chapters
regarding the Sixth Energy.

According to Masters Element and Rall, the
Sixth Energy is that of Will. To them, to me,
it is the fuel behind each action, the power
to perform. More importantly, I would point
out the aspect that they reference (I understand
that this is not an accessible book) is that
the Energy of Will is split into three spheres:
The Infinite Will, the Divine Will and the
Mortal Will.

The Infinite Will is the greatest Will,
the will of our Creator, Sarapis. From his Will,
all things stem. The Divine Will is that of
the Gods and Goddesses in our realm. This Will
is limited by that of the Infinite Will. As
Sarapis, the Creator, stated in News #3037, the
Divine "are not relative concepts, but objective
ones" and it is His Will that limits and defines
the Divine Will. In turn, the Mortal Will is
limited by both the Divine and the Infinite Will
and defined by each.

So, who is more free, the Divine or the Mortal?

I don't think it is a question that should be
asked, insofar that it is not a comparison one
can make properly. Apples and Oranges and such.
I agree with Azzazzello's posting particularly
in regards with the fact that the Divine are
perfect manifestations of a particular Form. I
cannot even dare to think what goes on in a
Divine's Mind. I would never presume.

I will say this, without giving an exact
answer as to whom as more of a choice. Honestly,
I do not have one. All I can say is this.
The Infinite Will, that of Sarapis, is the
Source, the Conceiver of all things, including
the Divine. It is His indomitable Will that
defines all else in this realm. In turn, the
Divine Will and the Infinite Will stretch
their influence to affect the Mortal Will.
Perhaps we are not free in that we are simply
torn between being good, being evil, being
compassionate or being malign because all
aspects of the Divine are evident within the
Mortal Will.

Perhaps such questions are best left alone?
I for one find being just enough.

Thank you for your attention.

Penned by my hand on the 2nd of Sarapin, in the year 330 AF.


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Public News Post #10772

RE: Free Will, Celestial Manifestations, and What Not

Written by: Disciple Diego, Initiate of the First Order
Date: Friday, March 14th, 2003
Addressed to: Everyone


I beg pardon, citizens of Sapience, if I sound
a bit hesitant. I am young and this is my first
post to the entire realm, and it is a bit over-
whelming. I write in response to News #10765
penned by Wilderness Apprentice Teravell Mori in
regards to the subject of Free Will and whether
the Divine have it, and we are somehow more
free.

I am still in the process of my studies
and I do not presume to speak for any in my
guild, be they peers or elder Kharon. What I
write this fine day of Sarapin is my views on the
posting and my interpretation on one of the
Kharon's most important spiritual texts, "The
Seven Energies".

Do the Divine have free will? Do we mortals?

"The Seven Energies" is a text that discusses
the Energies that shape our lives, form our
actions, give us the breath of life, and the
taste of death. Without going into too much
detail, each Energy has its own part in our
world, and it affects our actions (or are our
actions). Of relevance is the chapters
regarding the Sixth Energy.

According to Masters Element and Rall, the
Sixth Energy is that of Will. To them, to me,
it is the fuel behind each action, the power
to perform. More importantly, I would point
out the aspect that they reference (I understand
that this is not an accessible book) is that
the Energy of Will is split into three spheres:
The Infinite Will, the Divine Will and the
Mortal Will.

The Infinite Will is the greatest Will,
the will of our Creator, Sarapis. From his Will,
all things stem. The Divine Will is that of
the Gods and Goddesses in our realm. This Will
is limited by that of the Infinite Will. As
Sarapis, the Creator, stated in News #3037, the
Divine "are not relative concepts, but objective
ones" and it is His Will that limits and defines
the Divine Will. In turn, the Mortal Will is
limited by both the Divine and the Infinite Will
and defined by each.

So, who is more free, the Divine or the Mortal?

I don't think it is a question that should be
asked, insofar that it is not a comparison one
can make properly. Apples and Oranges and such.
I agree with Azzazzello's posting particularly
in regards with the fact that the Divine are
perfect manifestations of a particular Form. I
cannot even dare to think what goes on in a
Divine's Mind. I would never presume.

I will say this, without giving an exact
answer as to whom as more of a choice. Honestly,
I do not have one. All I can say is this.
The Infinite Will, that of Sarapis, is the
Source, the Conceiver of all things, including
the Divine. It is His indomitable Will that
defines all else in this realm. In turn, the
Divine Will and the Infinite Will stretch
their influence to affect the Mortal Will.
Perhaps we are not free in that we are simply
torn between being good, being evil, being
compassionate or being malign because all
aspects of the Divine are evident within the
Mortal Will.

Perhaps such questions are best left alone?
I for one find being just enough.

Thank you for your attention.

Penned by my hand on the 2nd of Sarapin, in the year 330 AF.


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