Achaean News
His Word, But More Imoportantly, Your Words
Written by: Timothy
Date: Wednesday, October 23rd, 2002
Addressed to: Droch Tock Lerot
Greetings good Tock,
Actually, forgive me, for in light of your post and the material, such a
greeting may be insulting and I thus apologize. But let me be the first
to welcome your new guild upon this board.
Your interpretation of your Master's Word is quite inteserting, and I
must thank you for sharing it. In return I would like to share some
thoughts and interpretations I have upon your interpretations of your
Master's Word. It is an important distinction however, that I speak more
with regard to your interpretations than the actual texts from which you
quote.
Ch1v2: Awake mine harp: I myself will awake early to spend mine day in
the worship of my LORD. v3: I will praise the, O LORD, amoung the people
and I will sing praises unto thee amoun the nations.
You say that this is the intention of every good servent to your Master.
How true it must be. But I ask you, is there any devoted follower of any
religion or Divinity that does not wake with the intention of doing a
good day's service for their Lord or Lady? And the truly devoted, do
they not pour every ounce of their being into the task? And would any of
these devoted followers not praise their Lord or Lady to the populace of
Achaea? You are surely not the first to preach a religion, but only the
latest. In short, your claim of devotion, while noble in it's own
meaning and wording, seems... well, common. Or at the very least, quite
similar to countless groups and people that have posted before you.
Ch1v4: For thy might is great above the heavens: and thy truth reacheth
unto the clouds. v5: Be thou exalted, O LORD, above the heavens: and thy
glory above all the land, waters, and mountains
You make bold statements about the shear Power of your Lord. And I could
not debate the amazing force that is Lord Sartan. I have seen him act
against mortals and those below him with great might and ferocity.
However, unless I am mistaken there is a great undertone throughout your
words, that imply Lord Sartan is all powerful. Not simply A Great Power
within the universe, but The Great Power. However, I am reminded of the
old saying "There is always someone stronger," and while I know no
mortal could ever fulfill this saying with regards to Lord Sartan, it
would be silly of me to suggest that some of the other Divine are not
equally as powerful. I think it safe to say that Lord Sarapis is, but
what about the others? Lord Aegis, Lady Eris, Lord Twilight, and so
forth?
Now, I cannot measure the power or strength of a God or Goddess. Nor
would I be so bold as to guess how powerful Lord Sartan is. But allow me
to make the observation (and I mean no disrespect to Lord Sartan in
doing so) that as far as the relative power of the Divine goes, when
Lord Sartan chose to directly confront other members of the Divine Rank,
for a short time, His glory seemed limited to being below "the land,
waters, and mountains." The water of course being to the west of the
Vashnars, along with the one specific mountain.
Again, not an observation of His might, just of the relative might of
the Divine.
Your verses seven through ten comments were of course next. You speak of
the suffering of those that directly oppose your Lord. Well of course,
when a mortal directly goes against a Divine, the mortal will suffer and
perish. And I would imagine that stands true for any God or Goddess, not
just Lord Sartan. And you say that those who do not "see the truth" of
your Master's Words will suffer and be made to perish as they are unfit
of mercy or life. I know I'm opening a can of worms by saying this, but
have you asked the Church what they think of Occultists lately? My point
being that the idea of "My Lord's religion is the only true one, and
those not of it will suffer hardships" is, while perhaps not common,
surely not unique to the religion you are preaching.
And while you detest the restrictions of the Codex (Yes, boys and girls,
the world has turned over and upside-down, Timothy is kinda-sorta-maybe
defending the codex in some obscure respect), don't you live under
potentially much more restriction? I mean, you may do only one thing:
what your Master tells you to. And while He may give you permission to
do many things, what you submit to can potentially be far more
restrictive upon you than the Codex upon the Church. The Codex is at
least a known quantity. And it does seem a bit odd that a group as
strong as you and the Maldaathi and the Naga submit totally. Unless
there is value in how the Church submits to the Codex as well, of
course.
Ch3v2: Thou shalt not take thee a wife, neither shalt thou have sons or
daughters in this place. v4: They shall die of grievous deaths; they
shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be
as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the
sword, and by famine; and their carcases shall be meat for the fowls of
heaven, and for teh beasts of the earth.
You say that there is much suffering that comes from taking a spouce or
loving others. Yet, from the seven truths, isn't suffering and pain the
processes by which you purify and grow stronger? I mean, surely Lord
Sartan's followers do not fear or flee from pain of any sort, let alone
a little emotional pain. Or perhaps you mean that no family is to be had
because you will care for them and thus be weak. That makes a bit more
sense, but in following a religion as difficult as Evil, wouldn't you be
able to control your emotions enough to have the family, or at least
allow those from which you came to exist, but not love them. Not be
bound by the effeminate emotions? In this regard it nearly seems as
though you flee the challenge, and flee from fear of the failing in
controling the emotions. Wouldn't it be wiser to face and conqure them?
And then use the love that your family has for you to your advantage.
Manipulate them and control them.
Though, that would require thinking for yourself rather than submitting.
Perhaps that is simply not the direct path you wish to take.
Thank you again for your views as the new preachers of Lord Sartan's
religion. Please take nothing I said as meaning to offend. And again,
welcome and good luck to your new guild. But the time grows late, and I
have several more heads to pike.
Respectfully Your's,
Timothy
P.S. Do the Maldaathi follow the same version of the Evil Religion as
yourself? The regular whining (and touch of begging) I've been hearing
from them doesn't seem to match well with your words this evening. But
maybe they are the same none the less, as we all falter in our ideals
from time to time. Anyway, I bid you a good evening.
Sapience, I wish all of you luck and strength in following what you
believe.
Penned by my hand on the 20th of Phaestian, in the year 318 AF.
His Word, But More Imoportantly, Your Words
Written by: Timothy
Date: Wednesday, October 23rd, 2002
Addressed to: Droch Tock Lerot
Greetings good Tock,
Actually, forgive me, for in light of your post and the material, such a
greeting may be insulting and I thus apologize. But let me be the first
to welcome your new guild upon this board.
Your interpretation of your Master's Word is quite inteserting, and I
must thank you for sharing it. In return I would like to share some
thoughts and interpretations I have upon your interpretations of your
Master's Word. It is an important distinction however, that I speak more
with regard to your interpretations than the actual texts from which you
quote.
Ch1v2: Awake mine harp: I myself will awake early to spend mine day in
the worship of my LORD. v3: I will praise the, O LORD, amoung the people
and I will sing praises unto thee amoun the nations.
You say that this is the intention of every good servent to your Master.
How true it must be. But I ask you, is there any devoted follower of any
religion or Divinity that does not wake with the intention of doing a
good day's service for their Lord or Lady? And the truly devoted, do
they not pour every ounce of their being into the task? And would any of
these devoted followers not praise their Lord or Lady to the populace of
Achaea? You are surely not the first to preach a religion, but only the
latest. In short, your claim of devotion, while noble in it's own
meaning and wording, seems... well, common. Or at the very least, quite
similar to countless groups and people that have posted before you.
Ch1v4: For thy might is great above the heavens: and thy truth reacheth
unto the clouds. v5: Be thou exalted, O LORD, above the heavens: and thy
glory above all the land, waters, and mountains
You make bold statements about the shear Power of your Lord. And I could
not debate the amazing force that is Lord Sartan. I have seen him act
against mortals and those below him with great might and ferocity.
However, unless I am mistaken there is a great undertone throughout your
words, that imply Lord Sartan is all powerful. Not simply A Great Power
within the universe, but The Great Power. However, I am reminded of the
old saying "There is always someone stronger," and while I know no
mortal could ever fulfill this saying with regards to Lord Sartan, it
would be silly of me to suggest that some of the other Divine are not
equally as powerful. I think it safe to say that Lord Sarapis is, but
what about the others? Lord Aegis, Lady Eris, Lord Twilight, and so
forth?
Now, I cannot measure the power or strength of a God or Goddess. Nor
would I be so bold as to guess how powerful Lord Sartan is. But allow me
to make the observation (and I mean no disrespect to Lord Sartan in
doing so) that as far as the relative power of the Divine goes, when
Lord Sartan chose to directly confront other members of the Divine Rank,
for a short time, His glory seemed limited to being below "the land,
waters, and mountains." The water of course being to the west of the
Vashnars, along with the one specific mountain.
Again, not an observation of His might, just of the relative might of
the Divine.
Your verses seven through ten comments were of course next. You speak of
the suffering of those that directly oppose your Lord. Well of course,
when a mortal directly goes against a Divine, the mortal will suffer and
perish. And I would imagine that stands true for any God or Goddess, not
just Lord Sartan. And you say that those who do not "see the truth" of
your Master's Words will suffer and be made to perish as they are unfit
of mercy or life. I know I'm opening a can of worms by saying this, but
have you asked the Church what they think of Occultists lately? My point
being that the idea of "My Lord's religion is the only true one, and
those not of it will suffer hardships" is, while perhaps not common,
surely not unique to the religion you are preaching.
And while you detest the restrictions of the Codex (Yes, boys and girls,
the world has turned over and upside-down, Timothy is kinda-sorta-maybe
defending the codex in some obscure respect), don't you live under
potentially much more restriction? I mean, you may do only one thing:
what your Master tells you to. And while He may give you permission to
do many things, what you submit to can potentially be far more
restrictive upon you than the Codex upon the Church. The Codex is at
least a known quantity. And it does seem a bit odd that a group as
strong as you and the Maldaathi and the Naga submit totally. Unless
there is value in how the Church submits to the Codex as well, of
course.
Ch3v2: Thou shalt not take thee a wife, neither shalt thou have sons or
daughters in this place. v4: They shall die of grievous deaths; they
shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be
as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the
sword, and by famine; and their carcases shall be meat for the fowls of
heaven, and for teh beasts of the earth.
You say that there is much suffering that comes from taking a spouce or
loving others. Yet, from the seven truths, isn't suffering and pain the
processes by which you purify and grow stronger? I mean, surely Lord
Sartan's followers do not fear or flee from pain of any sort, let alone
a little emotional pain. Or perhaps you mean that no family is to be had
because you will care for them and thus be weak. That makes a bit more
sense, but in following a religion as difficult as Evil, wouldn't you be
able to control your emotions enough to have the family, or at least
allow those from which you came to exist, but not love them. Not be
bound by the effeminate emotions? In this regard it nearly seems as
though you flee the challenge, and flee from fear of the failing in
controling the emotions. Wouldn't it be wiser to face and conqure them?
And then use the love that your family has for you to your advantage.
Manipulate them and control them.
Though, that would require thinking for yourself rather than submitting.
Perhaps that is simply not the direct path you wish to take.
Thank you again for your views as the new preachers of Lord Sartan's
religion. Please take nothing I said as meaning to offend. And again,
welcome and good luck to your new guild. But the time grows late, and I
have several more heads to pike.
Respectfully Your's,
Timothy
P.S. Do the Maldaathi follow the same version of the Evil Religion as
yourself? The regular whining (and touch of begging) I've been hearing
from them doesn't seem to match well with your words this evening. But
maybe they are the same none the less, as we all falter in our ideals
from time to time. Anyway, I bid you a good evening.
Sapience, I wish all of you luck and strength in following what you
believe.
Penned by my hand on the 20th of Phaestian, in the year 318 AF.
